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For MAG members who make, respect, admire or want to explore metal sculpture. This group is here celebrate metal work on a sculptural scale! A networking group for metal sculptors, and fans of metal sculpture!

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Hi everyone - I work with a costume jewellery maker in Toronto and we are looking for someone to help us make custom metal pieces made of brass. The size is about 10-15 cm and we need it to have a…Continue

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Comment by Mary Hicks on February 23, 2011 at 1:22am
Thanks Marina,

I appreciate the feedback!
Comment by Marina Guglielmi on February 21, 2011 at 9:28pm
Im very interested in all of your techniques- also excited by the progress of the group. I didnt exactly know what to do with it when I started it- thanks guys, we have alot to learn from each other and Im excited that we are all so forthcoming!

I really want to experiment with your techniques- youll be getting questions from me in the near future!

I have used Jax cleaners, but never their patina mixes. I use Nymoc chemicals, which come in their raw for (powders, rocks- and I dillute with distilled water to get my desired concentration.

Ill get you the laquer i like Mary- forgot to take a look today1

Yay! Thanks all!
Comment by Nelson Fraser on February 21, 2011 at 4:27pm
Hello everyone I love the diffrent ways to color the metals naturally without paints. I have yet to use paints on any of the pieces I have in galleries and I am always looking for new ways to add dimension, I have had cool results using acids and heat. Once the piece has been dipped in acid (well ventilated) I heat the piece with a torch and the longer the heat the darker the colors I have so far gotten everything from yellow/gold to dark browns with everthing in between. I am facinated with the coloring and like hearing about the different things everyone is doing for the same. I am just finishing up a bar for a customer built out of steel and have only done a couple of sculptures in the past few months and can not wait untill the bar is done so I can get back to what I love. I will post the pictures on my page when I am done.
Comment by Mary Hicks on February 21, 2011 at 2:57pm
Hi Andy,

I take copper sheet, clean it really well, sprinkle rock salt, sawdust, or courser bark on top (if I want more patterns on the metal, you can just use the salt too), slowly pour vinegar over piece. Then I place it into a large freezer ziplock, or you can use heavy duty garbage bags for larger pieces, and place a small container of ammonia into the bag. You're basically creating a vapour chamber. I usually leave the piece overnight. If you want the colours/patterns to be stronger, just keep it in longer. Once you remove it rinse with water to stop the chemical reaction and seal. You can see an example of the technique on my "Copper wall sculpture" piece. I think you can use this technique on bronze and other metals too. I'll look it up. "The Colouring, Bronzing and Patination of Metals", by Richard Hughes and Michael Rowe, is a fantastic resource for colouring metal. It has lots of colour plates to show you different effects on different metals. Thanks for the advice Marina. Are you mixing the pigments with JAX patinas? I would love the brand name of acrylic spray that you use. Thanks for posting this group!
Comment by Marina Guglielmi on February 21, 2011 at 10:31am
by the way- red is the hardest....
Comment by Marina Guglielmi on February 21, 2011 at 10:26am
Hi Mary-

Your lucky your working with copper- you can get amazing colours from copper.
For some of the bright colours experiment with adding pigment to your chemical mix-

BRIGHT RED- ferric nitrate with cadmium red pigment> heat up your piece with a torch and either use a pint brush to stipple on the chemical mix or a airbrush to spray it on.

Note-
pigmented patinas are easy to burn, it takes a lot of practice to get those just right. It also takes alot of experimenting to see what mix you like- but remember, its a tiny amount of powder in the chem mix.
also, you need to use real pigments- nt the cheapo Curry's stuff. The real powdered chemical- like painters used 100 years ago. There expensive but a miniscule amount goes a really long way.

Also- this method is super toxic- organic vapour cartiridge is an extreme must. (also a dust cartridge when you are mixing the powdered component.

As for sealant- it is very important that you seal pigmented patinas. I work with a variety of metal, and I use a satin spray clear laquer for met (let me know if you want the brand name- ill check at the studio.) its made dor metal and its UV and moisture resistant. Then, to make it look more traditional I wax over the 2 coats of laquer after it dries. I prefer TreWax or MinWax- it has a slightly golden base which pumps up bronze and copper no matter what patina you have. For a clear wax i use Conservators wax- very similar to Rennaisance- but I find those are good for touch ups, not for primary sealing as they are just too thin and ont provide protection.

Any questions let me know!

By the way- most people dont do this, your right, most people paint their pieces.

Marina
Comment by Andy Pomorski on February 21, 2011 at 9:37am
Mary: Your torch fired patina techniques sound interesting. do you simply burn those things and hold your peice above the fumes ? I may have to try that. I know one very traditional finish for bronze (copper would work too) is to use liver of sulfur. I have not used it myself but I believe a number of different patina's can be achieved with it. a warning though, I think it is a carcinogen (what isn't these days ?)
Comment by Mary Hicks on February 21, 2011 at 3:31am
Hi Everyone,

I'm responding to Nelson's post. I've been experimenting with different ways of colouring & texturing metal for quite a while now. I've done torch fired patinas and have had great results with ammonia fumes, rock salt (or sawdust) and vinegar for the blue patinas & patterns on metal. Lately i've been getting into metallic paint and mica powder for more vibrant colours. I've wondered if many of the vibrant colours i've seen on various artists metalwork might actually be paint, given the spectrum of colour. Any suggestions for getting bright reds and how to seal torch fired patinas without affecting the colour? I've used renaissance wax and acrylics, but have had some colour changes occur. I'm also learning new weaving techniques to apply to my metalwork. I work primarily with copper. I look forward to hearing about your current work & process. Thanks!
Comment by Nelson Fraser on February 18, 2011 at 11:48pm
Hello everyone just thought I would put a post up to get the ball rolling on seeing what you are up to. I think that this group could be a great place to chat about the one thing we all have in common and get more like minded people involved. I look forward to many great discussions about all of the things being created.
Comment by Marina Guglielmi on January 27, 2011 at 2:53pm
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We have limited vacancies in our new studio and workshop share program in the heart of the downtown arts community available for immediate occupancy, and filling up fast.

All members get a personal studio area within a 2000 sq. ft. open studio for storage of their personal items and work on small projects. Then a large communal work area is provided for creating larger pieces.

Members also get 24/7 access to a 1200 sq. ft., unmatched workshop containing more than $10,000 in communal tools and large equipment (equipment list below).

Gallery shows within the space are held on a bi-annual basis, and studio management coordinates paid art classes to the public with 75% of the proceeds going to the teaching member. Members are able to have a page about their artistic practice on our studio site: www.box47.ca

Despite all we have to offer, membership fees are low will not increase when others leave. HST and Utilities are included.

The goal is to promote and facilitate sculptural work in Toronto through a co-shared studio environment. This unique collaborative studio allows resident artists to share ideas, interact with other sculptors and build and foster a strong creative community.
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This opportunity is open to all 3D artists: metal smiths, ceramicists, carvers, traditional, new media and experimental sculptors, fine crafts, furniture. etc....
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