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Comment by Marina Guglielmi on March 16, 2011 at 9:12pm
Found my Nymoc Info- I guess they dont have a website
Nymoc Products Co
24 McGee St
Toronto, ON M4M 2K9
(416) 465-1929
Comment by Marina Guglielmi on March 16, 2011 at 9:08pm
I get copper sheet from Metal Supermarket- I believe they have locations across Canada, if not they do ship. I myself have never bought copper wire in bulk, but my mother used to buy a lot for her Bonsai, so Im assuming a japanese nursery or other botanical supplier would have it.

I do buy bronze wire- which you may be interested in. It should be available from any welding supplier, but it is special order. I go to Unitec. They have a variety of gages. The industrial use is for MIG welding, so if you call ask for whichever gage you prefer, Silicon Bronze MIG wire.
Comment by Mary Hicks on March 16, 2011 at 5:34pm
Thanks Marina! Great to have a good contact for laquers. Has anyone in the group used encaustics on metal? I'm also wondering if anyone has a good contact for thin copper sheet and bulk copper wire? I get most of my sheet metal & wire from the scrap yard but thin gauges are harder to come by.

Thanks in advance,

Mary
Comment by Marina Guglielmi on March 14, 2011 at 11:45pm
I never have. It is a laquer, so Im sure if you painted it on top of another sprayable laquer paint it should be fine. I think tremclad has a laquer family within its body of paints. It is always best to test. Also, I find if one waits afew days before spraying on a top coat, so that the colour coats are fully set- you have less chance or reactions. Just be sure to cover the piece with a cloth so it doesnt get dusty.

That being said- Permalac is specifically for metal applications, so you may find that a regular outdoor top coat would be sufficient and cheaper. i like permalac because it can be applied on bare, polished, and patinated metals and has a build in UV additive to protect patinas from light change.

I know of an artist who combines painted and patinated bronze, and seals them for outdoors with a marine laquer. Ive seen her outdoor aged work and it still looks great excpt where the public has scratched the painted surface.

She uses enamal for colour with marine laquer on top, and I believe most tremclad products are enamels

Marine laquers usually have a UV in them also, and provide superior water resistance to the permalac. They are also super durable and great for outdoor public art pieces. However, they are super glossy- which I dont like for my work. They can be toned down with an application of buffed wax overtop- but still shiny.

I recomment Composites Canada for Marine laquer. They are located in Toronto but deliver across Canada and their sales staff is extremely knowledgable. If you would like to try the marine laquer give them a call and ask about what your using- if they dont know offhand they will find out for you fast.
Comment by Andy Pomorski on March 14, 2011 at 7:53pm
Hi Marina,

have you ever used permalac in combination with other paints ? I just wonder if I can use something like tremclad as a first coat and permalac to seal it. do you have any experience with this compatibility ? I know some paints when used together can bubble up and create an irregular finish.
Comment by Marina Guglielmi on March 11, 2011 at 6:31pm
Sculpture Supply Canada has the laquer, and yes they ship.

Ill have to look up the Nymoc chemical company for you when im back at the studio.

Sculpture Supply Canada also sells patina chemicals, I just prefer Nymoc- not sure if they have picked them up yet
Comment by Mary Hicks on March 11, 2011 at 3:56pm
Hi Marina,

I live in B.C. If you could give me the name of the business you purchase your supplies from I could see if they ship. Thanks!!

Mary
Comment by Marina Guglielmi on March 8, 2011 at 12:42pm
where do you live Mary? Are you in Toronto often?

Nymoc is in Toronto, as well as a source for the Permalac- Im here so i have never looked in to getting the stuff online.
Comment by Mary Hicks on March 2, 2011 at 2:24am
Thanks so much Marina. I'm going to track down Permalac & hope that I can find it here. Can you purchase Nymoc chemicals online? I found out from a fellow artist that nice reds can be achieved on copper using salt on the copper and torching underneath until the salt dissolves and turns nearly black. It apparently turns red as it cools. I haven't tried it yet but thought i'd pass it on in case anyone might be interested.
Comment by Marina Guglielmi on February 26, 2011 at 5:32pm
Hello all,

My preference for sealing is to lacquer, than was over the lacquer. The lacquer seals the piece without altering patinas, and adds a lot of extra protection. i was on top of cured lacquer so that it looks natural- I like the finish of buffed wax.

Best lacquer I've found- PERMALAC (I like the satin finish)
My favorite wax: MINWAX

My prefered
 

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